Nic and Paul interview Paul Clukey, Founder of Online Marking Gorilla. They hear Paul’s story of how he lost everything and how honesty became his new world. You will hear what he did when his entire social network collapsed, how he was ok with being “the #2 guy”, how scary it is when you rock the boat.

What is the “terror barrier”? How Paul went from “going thru the motions” to finding his heart again and much more….

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